{"id":2398,"date":"2008-06-24T16:04:50","date_gmt":"2008-06-24T16:04:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/2008\/06\/dd11-main-group-rennaisance.html"},"modified":"2011-12-20T11:09:28","modified_gmt":"2011-12-20T11:09:28","slug":"dd11_main_group_rennaisance_1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/2008\/06\/dd11_main_group_rennaisance_1.html","title":{"rendered":"DD11: Main group rennaisance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Greetings from Berkeley, where I&#8217;m attending Dalton Discussion 11: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rsc.org\/ConferencesAndEvents\/RSCConferences\/DD11\/index.asp\">The Renaissance of Main Group Chemistry<\/a>. <span class=\"caps\">RSC<\/span> discussion meetings are quite different from normal conferences: the speakers have submitted full papers of their work, and a collection of &#8216;pre-prints&#8217; of all the papers is given to each delegate to read beforehand. Talks are then limited to about 5 minutes, with around 15-20 mins of discussion to follow. The papers are then published in one issue (in this case of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rsc.org\/Publishing\/Journals\/dt\/\"><em>Dalton Transactions<\/em><\/a>) afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>So, what has been discussed? A lot of pretty impressive main group chemistry, including some incredibly sophisticated Al and Ga cluster chemistry by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aoc.uni-karlsruhe.de\/english\/17.php\">Hansgeorg Schnoeckel<\/a>. The size of some of these clusters are approaching nanoparticles, only these are molecularly defined &#8211; all with the same number of metal atoms. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.inchm.bris.ac.uk\/people\/manners.htm\">Ian Manners<\/a> talked about his adventures with inorganic polymers, with alternating P and N rather than boring old carbon.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s actually a bit of a theme I&#8217;m finding: there&#8217;s a whole host of other elements out there apart from carbon and it&#8217;s their differences from, rather than their similarities to, carbon that makes the compounds unusual and interesting in so many ways.<\/p>\n<p>There was an interesting and wide-ranging question posed by one of the chairs (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.chem.ucl.ac.uk\/people\/carmalt\/index.html\">Claire Carmalt<\/a>): does chemistry (and main group chemistry in particular) need applications to justify funding, or should curiosity alone be enough? Most of the delegates thought curiosity was enough, and <a href=\"https:\/\/chem.ucr.edu\/index.html?main=faculty&#038;facsort=profile&#038;faculty=reed\">Chris Reed<\/a> said that he often answers that question with &#8216;Ask me in 20 years!&#8217; He made specific reference to some carboranes that he first made about 20 years ago, but is now using as extremely powerful yet gentle reagents.  Someone from Los Alamos (whose name I didn&#8217;t catch) made the comment that applications demand blue-sky curiosity.<\/p>\n<p>And a final mention must go to yesterday&#8217;s chair, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chemistry.ohio-state.edu\/~chisholm\/\">Malcolm Chisholm<\/a>, who reminded us of Mark Twain&#8217;s words that &#8216;the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>Neil, in mercifully sunny Berkeley<\/p>\n<p>Neil Withers (Associate Editor, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/nchem\">Nature Chemistry<\/a><\/em>)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greetings from Berkeley, where I\u2019m attending Dalton Discussion 11: The Renaissance of Main Group Chemistry. RSC discussion meetings are quite different from normal conferences: the speakers have submitted full papers of their work, and a collection of \u2018pre-prints\u2019 of all the papers is given to each delegate to read beforehand. Talks are then limited to about 5 minutes, with around 15-20 mins of discussion to follow. The papers are then published in one issue (in this case of Dalton Transactions) afterwards.&nbsp; <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/2008\/06\/dd11_main_group_rennaisance_1.html#wpn-more-2398\" class=\"more-link\">Read more<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/2008\/06\/dd11_main_group_rennaisance_1.html\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":122,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,22],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2398","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conference-reports","category-neil-withers"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2398","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/122"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2398"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2398\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2398"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2398"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/thescepticalchymist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2398"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}