Do it for science – not for tenure

Career advice from a Nobel Laureate

By Judith Reichel

I recently had the pleasure of joining the 67th Lindau Nobel Laureate meeting at Lake Constance in the south of Germany. The weeklong meeting alternates its main focus between chemistry, physics, and medicine & physiology each year — the three categories of natural sciences the Nobel Prizes are awarded for. This year the focus was back on chemistry, and I was lucky enough to be invited by the organisers to cover the event on their blog.

Throughout the week I met handpicked junior researchers, talented fellow science communicators and journalists, and — above all — sat down with Nobel Laureates for one-on-one interviews.

One of them was Martin Chalfie, who won the 2008 prize in Chemistry with Osamu Shimomura and Roger Y. Tsien for their development of the now widely used Green Fluorescent Protein (GFP) tag. Inserting the gene sequence for GFP into a host organism produces the protein within a cell, which allows for the visualization of intricate biological processes.

Chalfie talking to students at Lindau 2017

Chalfie talking to students at Lindau 2017{credit}Christian Flemming/Lindau Nobel Laureate Meetings Young Scientists in conversation with Martin Chalfie{/credit}

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Lessons from a laureate

Carina Dehner shares what she learnt at the 2015 Lindau Nobel meeting from Professor Peter Doherty, winner of the Medicine or Physiology Nobel in 1996.

Guest contributor Carina Dehner

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The Nobel Prize is a highly coveted and uniformly respected accolade. Receiving this honor opens almost every single door in the world; seemingly every country will welcome you with open arms. For example, the American immigration system will immediately provide you with a green card–. Furthermore, it conveys life-long prestige which many use to influence policy.

But, what is so special about these laureates? What happened in their lives and education that primed them for their seminal achievements? At the 2015 Lindau Nobel meeting I had the opportunity to interact with Professor Peter C. Doherty, winner of the 1996 Medicine or Physiology Nobel for his research on the immune system. He and Rolf Zinkernagl discovered how the immune system recognizes cells infected by a virus, deepening the understanding of how the immune system distinguishes self from foreign molecules. I was interested in his work as it closely relates to my own research on autoimmune diseases. What I was most excited about, however, was what I could learn from someone who has reached what many consider to be the pinnacle of a scientific career.

Nonlinear paths

Doherty began in Australia as a veterinary doctor, then switched to pathology, where he made his novel findings in immunology research. This meandering path is not unique to Doherty – many scientists often switch research fields, following research questions they find interesting. This type of career path is worth considering because it might stop you from developing tunnel vision and be open for other aspects.

Mentors

Today young scientists are advised to seek a mentor, but it struck me as interesting that Doherty’s never had one. Although he did mention annual meetings with a supervisor in pathology, he never gleaned constructive feedback that helped guide and formulate his thinking. He often left meetings with a simple “good idea” and nothing more. But this obviously did not discourage him.

He doesn’t believe mentors are the be-all-and-end-all. Many senior scientists are extremely busy, and might not be able to focus much attention on your needs as a young researcher. Instead, he suggests speaking to those who are just one or two steps ahead of you in your chosen career path to find out what they’ve experienced. Not only that, but if you want the best learning experience, “it helps to have a mentor who will continue to be enthusiastic about you after you’ve left “the fold”.

Yet he does his best to help his current students. Now, Doherty spends more time away from the bench, reviewing his staff’s papers and working with them to improve their communication skills. “Being able to express him- or herself is one of the most important things in a scientist,” he says.

Science communication

As part of my experience at Lindau, I was given the opportunity to present my research in Doherty’s master class on immunology research. I learned how difficult it can be to convey one’s research to an audience, particularly those not in your field. In asking essential word definitions and mechanisms in immunology – addressed to the audience, he made it obvious how important it is to make one’s own work understandable for any audience. Instead of skipping the details he recommended focusing on the message of the project.

Doherty enjoys communicating ideas that are important to him and encourages young scientists to express their opinions, thoughts and most importantly their work to others. One way he recommends is by submitting written articles to publications like The Conversation. “[It] is a great option for spreading your work – it’s openly accessible and it saves you from wrong journalism – you yourself can set your point of view there,” he says. He believes that the problem lies with well-qualified science journalists losing their jobs, “and the fact that media organizations push a particular (and at times toxic) line.”

So instead he suggests scientists reach out to the public themselves. “The lack of awareness of science and how it works is dangerous, especially when ignorance is a license to deny realities that may be dangerous to us,” he says. “We need everyone to speak up, and younger people are more likely to be adept in the ‘new media’.”

His advice on how to learn to do this is to just get writing.If you can find someone who is good and will read your stuff, listen to what they tell you,” he says. He had a short list of tips that would be useful for any scientists, whatever their career stage:

Less is more. You don’t have to cover everything. Instead, focus on getting a key message across.

Tell a story, whatever format you use.

Avoid jargon where you can.

Don’t reproduce anything you don’t understand. “If you read an impressive argument or statement that you don’t understand, don’t reproduce it. The originator probably doesn’t understand it either!”

The end goal

When reflecting on the Nobel itself, Doherty believes that “this prize is much more recognition than what you deserve – suddenly things come up you never thought about before.” But there are also advantages of a prize like this. He now has the ability to provide yearly financial support for the training of young scientists, which brings him much joy.

Academic research: Getting into a lab

Three chemistry Nobel laureates share how they select the PhD students and faculty members that join their labs and departments.

Naturejobs-podcastFor many young researchers entering graduate school for a PhD, a career in academic research is the end goal. Yet the pyramidal career structure doesn’t make this easy for everyone to reach. So, when it comes to finding out how you can get your foot in the door, who better to ask than three of the most successful academic research scientists?

One of my best trips this year was to the 65th Lindau Nobel Meeting. It was set on Lindau Island, a beautiful, picturesque little place in Lake Constance in Germany. And whilst I was there enjoying the sights, I also had the opportunity to speak to some very interesting people. The meeting was an opportunity for hundreds of early-career researchers to meet Nobel Prize winners from across the sciences. They networked, presented and had informal conversations about the scientific life.

This month’s podcast is a collection of conversations and thoughts I had at that meeting with three Chemistry Nobel Laureates: the 2008 Laureate Martin Chalfie from the University of Columbia; Venki Ramakrishnan from the Laboratory of Molecular biology, Cambridge, UK, who won the prize in 2009; and Arieh Warshel from the University of Southern California, the 2013 prize winner.

Amongst other things, we discussed what each of them looks for in PhD students that they take on into their laboratories and faculty members that they hire into their departments. The main message from all laureates I spoke to, not just these three, was that without visible, tangible passion and enthusiasm for the science, it’s going to be difficult for you to get a position in a laboratory.

This lead us nicely onto a discussion about how you communicate this in an interview. And so, in the last part of this podcast, Warshel and Ramakrishnan, share their concerns for young scientists in this endeavour: They understand the importance of being a good communicator, but scientists need to know the limits to this. It’s no good over-selling your work if it means neglecting it, or even fabricating it.

 

 

In conversation with Brian Schmidt

A PI’s job is more than just training researchers; it’s to help scientists become more developed, happier people, says Brian Schmidt.

Naturejobs-podcastThe number one concern that students have, according to Brian Schmidt, 2011 Physics Nobel Prize winner, is “not knowing the future of how they’re going to be a researcher.”

This is Brian Schmidt’s opening statement in this podcast. He’s concerned for the students.

Many young researchers feel that after having done the PhD training only sets them up for a career in academia. Schmidt likes to think otherwise. A PhD in science sets you up for more than just a career in academia, it sets you up for a career in anything.

In this podcast he talks about his own career, and how he almost left research and might have missed out on being part of the team that discovered the expansion of the universe was accelerating! The lessons he learned from this experience are now ones he shares with his own students and postdoc researchers. And now, also with you.

Here’s a list of some of the key lessons that he touches on in our conversation:

  • Scientific training at undergraduate and postgraduate levels is interesting, you learn interesting things to do an interesting thing of some description.
  • Research is a great job, but not the only job. Every job is interesting if you make it interesting.
  • Be open: There are many ways to apply what you learn in academia to other jobs.
  • Revel in the moment: Don’t chase uncertainty
  • Do the best you can
  • Take time to self-reflect: consider what you enjoy doing, what you’d be willing to sacrifice to do this job.
  • Talk to supervisors and other scientists to find out what they’ve done, whether in academia or outside of it.
  • Proactive, eager to learn, motivated, driven, enthusiastic and balanced people make good scientists.
  • DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY!

This last message is one that I want to stress too. If you’re not happy with what you spend the majority of your life doing (those careers we keep talking about), it will begin to affect other parts of your life. And any career is just not worth sacrificing your happiness for.